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I'm not exactly sure on the range I should be shoving here with no antes. I don't think it's an atc shove.
Let's plug it into icmizer to see nash shoving ranges in this spot:
According to icmizer we should be shoving 45% of hands here, and Q8o does not fall in the shoving range. However, I firmly believe that sb/bb are calling tighter than nash. For the record sb is supposed to call 35%, and bb overcall 31%, or bb call 37% if sb folds.
At least at the games I play, nobody is going to call 35% or 31% to a button shove. However when I give them more reasonable calling ranges, like 16% for sb, it becomes an atc shove. Even if we give them all 20% calling ranges, it is an atc shove.
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